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December 27, 2002

Death walks the streets

This href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/28/international/africa/28AIDS.html?pagewanted=all&position=t
op">article
tells of a hospice in South Africa where women die of AIDS. 25%-that is the
percentage of South Africans who have HIV. Of course, very few whites have AIDS. It seems that it is
doing what the Afrikaner governments could not, slow down the growth of the black population. Of
course, if the percentage of blacks begins to drop because of AIDS, I have no doubt that the semi-literate
masses incubated in the townships will erupt in genocidal violence against the white middle & upper class
that seems to be immune from the scourge.

The strangeness of it all is that black Africa's most sophisticated political elite is turning a deaf ear to the
problem. If authoritarians like Musveni in Uganda can affect behavioral change and mitigate the spread
of the epidemic, what prevents a Democratic elected government from doing so? (Senegal has been able to
combat the spread of HIV and it is a democratic state, so that can not be the problem)

Posted by razib at 09:09 PM




Razib,
Do you have a passcode for the NY Times? They seem to have erased mine.

Posted by: duende at December 27, 2002 09:37 PM


Perhaps the black elite is turning into a Brahman-style caste that is genetically distinct from the
underclass it rules. But I'm sure that elite black African men exploit low-class women sexually, so they
might change their tune on that.

Posted by: duende at December 28, 2002 12:18 PM


Well, duende, do you see Haiti??? this country have a division in caste, where the mulatto elite governs on
the poor black people (cimarrones)...

Posted by: Juan ascaņo at December 28, 2002 04:31 PM


In the Carribean, the lightest mullattoes would run the nation, but in African countries? Sure, mixed-race
people might be overrepresented in top positions, but ALL of them?

Posted by: duende at December 28, 2002 09:06 PM


A couple of things. One, I recently learned that 10% of all Caucasians have a gene that gives them
immunity to developing AIDs. This is the same gene that gives immunity to the plague. Two, for any
soccer fans out there, World Cup 2010 is expected to be held in South Africa. I bet it's not going to
happen.

Posted by: Travel at December 28, 2002 11:46 PM



Hmm, is the infection rate for Indians in S. Africa higher than for Indians in India? I guess the
underlying theory is that a large black population is a bad influence. Are these whites and Indians getting
HIV from blacks?

Posted by: duende at December 30, 2002 01:23 PM


Don't hold your breath, Razib, as much as you wish it would happen, black people in Southern Africa are
not going to disappear from the face of the Earth. On the other hand, considering the current mayhem
and poverty in Bangladesh, that group of black people just might perish.

The NYT banned a nasty little pesk of a racist? Bravo! Anyone who would blame proximity to black
South Africans for white South Africans' high AIDS rates does not deserve a membership. This fool is
almost as good an example of racism as a mental illness as Razib.

Posted by: Truth Teller at December 31, 2002 07:12 AM


I assume that "a nasty little pesk of a racist" is me. You don't seem to have been here long enough to have
gotten a feel for the philosophy of this forum, but none of the bloggers or the consistent followers (such as
me, Steve Sailer, Diana, etc.) hate anyone or want to curtail anyone's civil rights. We reserve our true
contempt for white media figures who refuse to admit the truth, not for blacks. We would raise black IQs
if we could. We would create a Flinstone vitamin to get rid of AIDS if we could. But we don't think that
lies help, and if only on this forum if not in our daily lives, we want to be able to discuss these things
freely. If this upsets you so, you are free to leave.

Posted by: duende at December 31, 2002 08:14 AM


Duncie, if you want to raise someone's I.Q., start at home. Nothing you have posted reveals even average
intelligence. You are just another loser trying to raise himself above others by latching on to racism.

Posted by: Truth Teller at December 31, 2002 07:58 PM


I've seen no racists here. I have seen at least one name-calling troll who is obviously out of his depth in a
roadside puddle.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at January 1, 2003 06:20 PM


Ditto for the echo.

Posted by: Truth Teller at January 2, 2003 12:40 AM