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January 16, 2003

Average military IQ

Someone on the message board is asking about the average IQ of the enlisted soldier. Anyone know? The military is REALLY into testing, but he claims he can't find it via google.

Posted by razib at 01:34 AM




In 1995, the average black enlistee scored at the 59th percentile on the AFTQ (the test used in the Bell Curve), compared to the 14th percentile for non-military black youths. The average white enlistee score at about the 81st percentile, compared to the 61st percentile for the average white young person. I suspect that the stronger economy of recent years drove down those impressive numbers as kids that smart found they could make money in the civilian economy.

Posted by: Steve Sailer at January 16, 2003 04:35 AM


Thank you.

Posted by: Bill at January 16, 2003 08:08 AM


The military does lots of testing, but I don't recall anything like IQ tests. They are a lot more interested in more specific ability tests. It isn't necessary to be smart in the military, but you've got to do your job well...

Posted by: markm at January 16, 2003 03:37 PM


actually.. your GT score that you get from the entrance exam gives you are very close comparison to your actual IQ.

Posted by: Wesley Dabney at January 16, 2003 03:42 PM


I remember like it was yesterday being drafted in Sept. 1972, just days/weeks prior to the end of the draft. While in basic training, Dr. K announced "peace is at hand."

Also in basic, we were given two standardized tests -- verbal and math -- each with a top scale of 160. I had 152 verbal, 160 math (for a GT of 156, as I recall) and our First Sergeant remarked that he had never seen scores like that, and predicted I would make it big. When orders came soon after, I was informed the Army was making me a truck driver, MOS 63C. Anyone else have memories of these tests, or knowledge of what they mean?

Posted by: Paul at January 17, 2003 05:24 PM


It seems the representation of minorities, especially blacks, decrease proportionately as the military unit becomes more elite. No different to the civilian world in similar g demanding roles. Military sociologists suggest institutional discrimination and racism. I read elsewhere that the Navy Seals have employed black geneticist Warren Lockette, known for his integration efforts that increased diversification into two Midwestern medical schools, to help bring more blacks into the SEALS.


"Only 13 percent of the Pentagon' s highly trained special-operations forces are racial minorities. Of the 8,775 Army, Navy and Air Force commandos, 1,180 are classified as minorities.

n Less than 15 percent of the Army' s Special Forces and Rangers personnel are soldiers of color, compared with about 40 percent of the entire Army.

About 11 percent of Navy SEALs, whose headquarters are in Coronado, are minorities. "We are underrepresented (with minorities) compared to what we' d like," acknowledged Rear Adm. Eric Olson, the Navy' s top SEAL.

Eight percent of the Air Force' s special-tactics and pararescue groups, the military' s smallest commando force, are minority members.

The greatest disparity appears in the ranks of black servicemen.

The Army Special Forces, known by distinctive green berets, has 234 African-American officers and soldiers in a force of 5,200 men. Blacks make up 4.5 percent of the Green Berets, compared with nearly 24 percent of the male soldiers in the Army.

The Navy has only 31 blacks among its 2,299 Sea-Air-Land, or SEAL, commandos, less than 2 percent of the force. African-Americans constitute nearly 17 percent of the male personnel within the Navy.

And, the Air Force' s special-tactics groups have only eight blacks in a force of 472 men, less than 2 percent. Servicewide, about 14 percent of the Air Force' s male personnel are African-American."

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/commandos/20000917-0010_mz1n17rank.html

Posted by: Dan at January 20, 2003 04:31 AM


You have to take a test to get in the Armed services. To see an example of what this test contains go to this link:http://www.todaysmilitary.com/explore_asvab.shtml
IQ tests may not measure all forms of intelligence. And a guy who spells lousy might be able to take apart a tank and repair it, or a guy like Churchill might flunk the math parts of the test and still be able to lead a country.

Posted by: Nancy Reyes at January 20, 2003 06:47 AM