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September 09, 2003

CRAZY!!!

12-year-old settles music swap lawsuit.

Godless comments:

This battle was over before it started. EarthStation5 is where it's at.

The servers are located in Palestine (!), and I *doubt* the RIAA can issue subpoenas there. The company is explicitly at war with the RIAA, and the software supposedly does all kinds of spoofing so that you don't know who you're downloading or sending to.

Also, I bet that some EFF guy will take up a collection for the people who are sued. I'd pony up a few bucks for this poor girl. F*** the RIAA - they're no-value-added middlemen - nothing but Luddites throwing sand in the engines of progress. They're no different from the Industrial Revolution-era malcontents who sabotaged productivity-enhancing machines.

Check this out:

SupportP2P. Does EarthStation5 really have anoynomus p2p as you have been telling us? Is there any way you can prove this with facts?

Ras: The answer is yes. When using our full security, an OUTSIDE person such as the RIAA and the MPAA will not be able to determine who the user is, what files they are downloading or uploading and where they are located. We are about to offer a reward next week in the sum of $50,000.00 for anyone that can break our full security features.

SupportP2P What are some plans for ES5 in the future to make it more safe for p2p users?

Ras: Our software is quite safe NOW. No other P2P software is even close to the security features that we have currently. We are updating our software THREE times a week in various languages on our download page The Fastract system which was the best P2P software on the internet is no longer supported. As a result, the RIAA and the MPAA have been able to break into their software. The Gnutella 2 has no security and of course the RIAA and the MPAA has been able to break into that system and is now engaging in subpoenas to those users.

Also, as I commented before, the RIAA's attempts at copy protection are inherently doomed, because you can always rerecord the output before it hits the speakers.

Posted by razib at 09:07 PM




I'd like to know if it can be documented whether or not her age was known when she was chosen for the target list. If so I am thru purchasing recorded music until they admit error and rebuild the business model.

Posted by: triticale at September 9, 2003 11:41 PM


Does anyone know if Freenet (http://freenet.sourceforge.net/) will be operational soon?

Does anyone think it will be 'untraceable' with regards to any RIAA methods currently being employed? I've read that if you use Linux, the RIAA cannot trace your p2p usage. If true there may be something to the 'untraceable' idea.

Posted by: R at September 10, 2003 01:03 AM


i think the question of wi-fi is very important. if broadly interpreted this would mean that everyone would be forced to close off their hotspots. intellectual property was meant to foster the common good-easy & widespread wi-fi in & of itself isn't that big of a deal, but if it was curtailed because of the RIAA i think it is starting to fit into a general pattern: it is arguable from a utilitarian perspective as to whether or not the current enforcement of intellectual property, especially in the artistic context, is starting to no longer be in the interests of the society.

joel? you out there?

Posted by: razib at September 10, 2003 01:37 AM


In Palestine? Maybe they'll ask the IAF to bomb it. ;)

Posted by: Melnorme at September 10, 2003 05:56 AM


I haven't downloaded anything since Napster went down the tubes, but my daughter still does a bit of this with Kazaa. I was under the impression that the music companies were coming up with some ways to fix recordings so they couldn't be downloaded. For example, my daughter has a CD by Evanescence that (from what she tells me) cannot be downloaded. If you attempt to download the file it comes out overwritten with tones and noise or something. Is that sort of copy protection not going to work GC? Anyway, I agree the RIAA are a bunch of asses. Adapt, evolve, compete, I say.

Posted by: Katy at September 10, 2003 06:03 AM


Perhaps this whole thing will return music to its roots as music-the idea that music is something recorded by musicians is a new one historically. Indeed, some early musicians could not comprehend that early Edison acolytes wanted to record a performance-the playing in the moment was the thing-a recording to them was like saving the cast of a moldy sandwich. In colonial America not being able to play an instrument was akin to illiteracy. At social gatherings-people actually made music. The ability to play a guitar remains a great way to get laid-and learning the basic chords is absurdly easy-yet kids are into downloading 50 cent mp3s. The sooner recorded music dies the better. A bas la tyrannie of the electromagnetic spectrum.

Posted by: martin at September 10, 2003 09:32 AM


The other thing is that the record companies could make CDs more worthwhile as collector's items. Better cover art, special inserts, that kind of thing. You'd be paying to get the really nice CD version rather than just the tunes in a convenient format.
Also, a lot a musicians are saying they want their music out there for free - they make their money on performances. Record companies aren't much good to you if you have a niche market of say 5-10,000 listeners. File swapping is a positive boon to them.

Posted by: John Purdy at September 10, 2003 10:28 AM


And oh yeah, this is a phenomenon that I put firmly in the "hope for the future" category.

Posted by: John Purdy at September 10, 2003 10:33 AM