But government policy also strongly influences the sort of “cultural changes” which are meant here by Jimbo.

“I doubt govt intervention alone will be effective. Until then, you’re jumping to conclusions about the effect govt will have with their new policies.” -R

Stay tuned, Jimbo and R. Ya wanna meet and discuss this again in, say … uhhhhhhh ….let’s see ….. nine months from now?

I echo Jimbo’s points. Unless there are concomitant cultural changes in the populace with regard to having kids, I doubt govt intervention alone will be effective. Until then, you’re jumping to conclusions about the effect govt will have with their new policies.

BTW, I have nothing against the policies and wouldn’t mind if they actually work.

Sooooooooooo …. looks like governments can control domestic birthrates after all! — and quite easily at that, it would seem! If memory serves, when I suggested as much on another GNXP thread not long ago, I was treated by most who noticed my comment as something from the planet Uranus.

Governments can control and even fine-tune birthrates very easily. Count on it. That governments here and in Europe prefer the massive importation of third-worlders to taking the natality restraints off their own populations is purely political. That can and should be changed.

“Once and individual is not long of service to the state, he is ejected.”

-this refers to my special case, I’m happy not to overstay my welcome with the Han as im getting paid for my services to them. It’s more economic cooperation than anything so dramatic as the use and abuse of the tragic migrant worker..

As well I didnt mention a state, Han are now a transnational ethno racial collective with branches in many many countries with various amounts of power within these countries.
Sure the goverments a massive hulk but at the end of the day its more resembles a low profile natsoc goverment then anything else. Hope the spies arent reading this or im in trouble :)

And how to your local Tibetans and Uigher feel about this? China is a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural state. The Chinese flag represents the Han majority and the key minorities. It’s not america-assimilationist so much as a “national minority” model, similar to what’s done in Finland (though in pratce, far inferior).

Thank God (the one most folks on this blog don’t beleive in) that Canada and the US have not gone that route. Once and individual is not long of service to the state, he is ejected. Not a model I want to see.

And individual multi-culturalism is a much better solution than ‘national-minorities’. It is an individual, not cllective, approach. Trudeau over Levesque.