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	<title>Comments on: ID in schools? (II)</title>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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	&lt;p&gt;I do think it&#039;s unfair to say as evidence of their belief in evolution that only 51% of news editors storngly disagree with &quot;every word of the bible is true&quot; for Christans and those with similar beliefs , that is the case in fact that arguablly defines the bible for them-where they would dispute (and hence many might support evolution) is in what sense Adam and Eve and the Seven days (partiuclaryu given the Hebrew of the orignianl in the latter case)  are true is it a metaphor the human conditon perhaps? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The dinonsarus example seems to me again to be unfair- it could just as easily be to scientific ignorance by a sincere evolutionist as anything else. An incredible number of well educated people-include fanatical Darwinists are very badly educated scientifically.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think it&#8217;s unfair to say as evidence of their belief in evolution that only 51% of news editors storngly disagree with &#8220;every word of the bible is true&#8221; for Christans and those with similar beliefs , that is the case in fact that arguablly defines the bible for them-where they would dispute (and hence many might support evolution) is in what sense Adam and Eve and the Seven days (partiuclaryu given the Hebrew of the orignianl in the latter case)  are true is it a metaphor the human conditon perhaps? </p>
<p>The dinonsarus example seems to me again to be unfair- it could just as easily be to scientific ignorance by a sincere evolutionist as anything else. An incredible number of well educated people-include fanatical Darwinists are very badly educated scientifically.</p>
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		<title>By: Zizka</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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	&lt;p&gt;To the extent that media are not rich men&#039;s money-losing vanity mouthpieces (e.g. Rev. Moon&#039;s Washington Times), they tend to be run by people who have been promoted up from advertising sales.   This is especially true of radio, but the Newhouse papers, for example, are overwhelmingly concerned with the bottom line rather than ideology or professionalism.  (The rightward pull from advertising and management which tends to cancel the supposed liberal tendencies of reporters. Or do you think that maybe these opinion-leaders were *leftist* creationists?)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A LOT of the animus against Darwinism comes from its association with sexual liberation -- &quot;We&#039;re all really just animals, let&#039;s behave animalistically!&quot;  (This, of course, is not based on careful observation of the sexual practices of animals, which vary a lot; mostly probably from watching dogs when a bitch is in heat).  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And oddly, conservative Christians of the Texas type have integrated a complacent version of the Social-Darwinian Law of the Jungle into Christianity. (LA New Age conservatives also use  the idea of karma to justify their privilege, though this is hardly a distortion of the original function of the doctrine). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The political and ethical interpretation of scientific ideas is a messy business.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the extent that media are not rich men&#8217;s money-losing vanity mouthpieces (e.g. Rev. Moon&#8217;s Washington Times), they tend to be run by people who have been promoted up from advertising sales.   This is especially true of radio, but the Newhouse papers, for example, are overwhelmingly concerned with the bottom line rather than ideology or professionalism.  (The rightward pull from advertising and management which tends to cancel the supposed liberal tendencies of reporters. Or do you think that maybe these opinion-leaders were *leftist* creationists?)</p>
<p>A LOT of the animus against Darwinism comes from its association with sexual liberation &#8212; &#8220;We&#8217;re all really just animals, let&#8217;s behave animalistically!&#8221;  (This, of course, is not based on careful observation of the sexual practices of animals, which vary a lot; mostly probably from watching dogs when a bitch is in heat).  </p>
<p>And oddly, conservative Christians of the Texas type have integrated a complacent version of the Social-Darwinian Law of the Jungle into Christianity. (LA New Age conservatives also use  the idea of karma to justify their privilege, though this is hardly a distortion of the original function of the doctrine). </p>
<p>The political and ethical interpretation of scientific ideas is a messy business.</p>
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