Comments on: Facial Expressions Of Emotion Are Innate, Not Learned

By: Neuroskeptic

Neuroskeptic — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:26:28 +0000

No, this was the 1970s I think. By today’s standards it would probably look really lame

By: Hyperbole

Hyperbole — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:11:52 +0000

also… were they showing the test subjects 2 girls 1 cup? That would be funny to find on a list of references for a scientific paper…

By: Hyperbole

Hyperbole — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:09:58 +0000

so the instinctual “first reaction” for a facial reaction is the same, but then cultural forces take over a fraction of a second later…

By: gene berman

gene berman — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 09:37:39 +0000

An old Korean saying:

“Never trust Japanese goods or Japanese smiles.

By: Neuroskeptic

Neuroskeptic — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:16:06 +0000

Paul Ekman’s way ahead of ya – he videotaped Westerners and Japanese people watching some gruesome videos. The Japanese smiled rather than showing disgust, presumably for cultural reasons, but if you look at the video of their faces in slow-motion, you can see that their initial reaction is one of disgust, the forced smile comes later…

By: pconroy

pconroy — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:49:25 +0000

Caledonian,

Indeed, the English, “Grin and bear it” expression…

By: Caledonian

Caledonian — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:31:37 +0000

Well, a lot of East Asians smile stupidly when they feel really uncomfortable, embarassed etc. It’s disconcerting… It’s not just East Asians. Lots of people do this when they feel awkward, embarrassed, etc., and can’t express their feelings because of social disapproval.

East Asians might have cultures that disapprove of displaying such emotions in public more than most, but the basic response is (as far as my limited experience indicates) universal.

By: Hyperbole

Hyperbole — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:41:15 +0000

Well, a lot of East Asians smile stupidly when they feel really uncomfortable, embarassed etc. It’s disconcerting…

But yeah, in general facial expression matters

By: Neuroskeptic

Neuroskeptic — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:12:35 +0000

Weird how journalists are writing this up as a big discovery when we’ve known this for 40 years.

Then again, it’s weird that we needed Ekman to tell us this in the first place. Anyone who’s visited a far-off country knows that emotional expressions (facial and vocal too) are largely cross-cultural.

By: Aidan Kehoe

Aidan Kehoe — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:50:38 +0000

The second and third paragraphs of the paper surely present a false dichotomy; ?Facial expressions of emotion, thus, are universal because the same expressions are observed and modeled around the world in response to the same types of emotionally evocative situations.? ?? observation of others’ facial expressions is surely not necessary for perception of their responses to one’s own facial expressions.