What the frack was that?

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Note from Razib: I haven’t watched BSG since the first few episodes. Please be careful about your first few words in your comments as I have to moderate and will also see them on the right side under recent comments. I plan to watch the whole series on DVD over a weekend at some point in the future when I have time. Thanks.



  1. Haven’t really been paying attention to BSG since season 1 ended and I stopped paying for cable. Is it worth downloading it off of the Internet or should I just not bother?

  2. I did like how they made Hera into Mitochondrial Eve, which finally justifies why she was so important to humanity; although, I think that having an Asian-White Mitochondrial Eve might send some odd racial messages. 
    If I were African, I might be slightly offended at the assertion that a bunch of White people and some Asians taught the natives how to speak and start civilization.

  3. Unfortunately, I’m in Korea now and I can’t watch the episodes online like I used to be able to. Same for Lost… lame. 
    I hope the last two episodes were awesome! If anybody knows where I can download them I’d appreciate it.

  4. It seems to me that for this last season the writers have been grasping for whatever Big Concepts they can stuff into the plot. 
    The latest Big Concepts are no different. They did best when they focused on a struggle for survival and how people adapted to it, not the drama and overblown emotion, and finally, the false sense of “epic” meaning.

  5. I will miss BSG. It was unusual for science fiction, focusing on the characters rather than the science (this is why critics loved it–most TV critics don’t have the slightest interest in science or big ideas, they want only characters). However, there was enough science and plot development for the show to be legitimately called science fiction. Also, I always found the epic idea of humanity desparately searching for a new home to be appealing, even on the cheezy original series. 
    The first two seasons of BSG were excellent, as you were rooting for the people fighting the cyclons against all odds, learning about the genuinely interesting characters, and learning that the cyclons had their own disagreements on what to do. The third season was disappointing. They focused too much on character at the expense of plot, and they tried to be too topical. They made up for it in the fourth season, when the pacing of the show caught back up. The first two-thirds of the final episode were fantastic, but I would have changed the last third. The whole Adam and Eve thing has been done plenty of times. 
    Overall, I give the series four out of five stars. My excusive list of five star sci-fi TV goes to the Twilight Zone, Star Trek, and the X-Files. The show did have a high hotness quotient. Although Jeri Ryan from Voyager is still my #1, Grace Park from BSG comes awful close.

  6. NERDS!

  7. You say it like it’s a bad thing.

  8. I got the first disc from Netflix and bagged it after the first episode. Starbuck is just too obnoxious. TV writers don’t seem to understand military social relations. Even if it was like the Air Force (not the military) and way in the future I don’t think it would be like that. If the people are not real what is the point?

  9. Original use of the term phrack: 

  10. Brett, “Frack” was used in the original BG series in the same euphemistic expletive sense as it is in the “re-imagining”. Given the original aired in 1978, it seems like a stretch to infer they replaced “f**k” with “frack” as a nod to phreaker/hackers.

  11. JH: By the way, the earliest use of “phreak” that I can find in LexisNexis is January 17, 1978 (an untitled AP story by Jane See White).

  12. I lost interest after I learned that almost everybody is a Cylon.

  13. What the frack was that? 
    That, my good Razib, was trainwreck, a trainwreck of the sort we haven’t seen since the Matrix sequels. 
    It was really no surprise to anyone watching the show critically. After the Caine episodes, the BSG’s story arc went to hell. Moore became too eager to turn the show into a space-bound version of Law & Order, trying to shove every current controversy into his show. 
    Another poster lauded the show for its focus on characters. Why? Few of the characters made any sense. For example, would a serious ship commander turn over his fleet to a subordinate who’d been sleeping with an enemy prisoner just so he could hang around in space waiting for his true love to appear? This is typical of the idiotic moves most of these “well developed” characters would make. The “cheesy” 1970s original had far better characters, and it even had a story that made more sense.