Next year a child! Or not….

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Earlier this year I put a reader survey. One thing that stuck out was now few children readers of this weblog had. Here’s a comparison with other demographics from the GSS:

Mean Number of Children For Men By For Age Classes
GSS, 2000-2008, Males Only
Age GNXP N GNXP All Males Bachelor’s Degree Advanced Degree Atheists & Agnostics
18-25 84 0 0.24 0.09 (N too small, omitted) 0.28
26-35 140 0.21 1.06 0.53 0.68 0.8
36-45 97 0.9 1.79 1.73 1.56 1.29
46-65 108 1.57 2.22 1.93 2.06 1.82

Below the fold I’ve broken down by demographic for the GNXP male sample 46-65, which has an N of 108 total (though some questions were omitted for some individuals). I added the political extremes and centers together (e.g., Far Left + Center Left + Left = Left)

GNXP Males 46-65 # Of Children
N 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 Mean # Of Children
Middle Class 43 0.3 0.23 0.3 0.09 0.05 0.02 0 1.4
Upper Middle Class 40 0.25 0.15 0.3 0.18 0.08 0.03 0.03 1.85
Graduate Degree 59 0.27 0.12 0.37 0.15 0.05 0.02 0.02 1.73
Undergraduate Degree 33 0.33 0.3 0.18 0.12 0.03 0.03 0 1.29
Left 38 - - - - - - - 1.76
Libertarian 32 - - - - - - - 1.74
Right 24 - - - - - - - 1.32
Christian 25 0.2 0.04 0.44 0.2 0.08 0.04 0 1.44
No Religion 72 0.35 0.24 0.25 0.1 0.06 0.01 0 1.33

Struck by the fact that GNXP male readers who are upper middle class have more children than those who are middle class (subjective definition of course), and, that those with graduate degrees have more children than those with only undergraduate degrees.



  1. A lack of children explains why many HBDers are bitter curmudgeons who read Roissy. Who else would obsess over this stuff? They feel a need to lash out, so they unleash online tirades against the more reproductively successful NAMs and devise cunning plots to trick women into sleeping with them while drunk. A wise man once said, “Don’t hate the playa, hate the game.”

  2. Struck by the fact that GNXP male readers who are upper middle class have more children than those who are middle class 
    Abstract intellectual interests are indicative of a high investment genotype. The lower the resource conditions the less likely someone of a high investment genotype is to reproduce.  
    Also higher IQ people who are middle, or esp. lower class would have a much more restricted long-term mate pool. 
    Low IQ men with lots of status and money have the most children; high IQ men with little status or money have the least children.

  3. I firmly believe that people of above average intelligence have a moral responsibility to have 3 or more children: I’m gay and I plan on four. With today’s technology, homosexuality is no bar to reproductive success!!!

  4. Mark, 
    Why don’t you blog anymore? It was an excellent blog.

  5. Mark, just out of curiousity, how do you plan to make your four kids?

  6. don’t forget to mate assortatively people. quantity & quality!

  7. ColdEquation, 
    I plan to use an egg donor/surrogate. Currently I am wrestling with the question of whether to go for a highly intelligent Italian-American egg donor or a highly intelligent Scandinavian-American egg donor. It would be nice to have tall, blonde chidren – I have recessive blonde genes – but is blondism worth risking the loss of that warmth native to the Italian character? What if I want to hug my kids and they can’t relate?  
    Thanks! I stopped blogging because I started law school.

  8. “What if I want to hug my kids and they can’t relate?” 
    How concerned of you–about your kids, of course. No matter they don’t have a mom to hug. Small matter, of course.

  9. Oh, I’m the Swedish mother of three blonde kids fathered by one Australian man (of scottish/irish heritage). They are all terribly snuggly and huggy. Could, of course, be the Australian heritage….

  10. GB, 
    As the child of a single mom – Dad’s fault, not her’s – I’m sympathetic to your point. But many gay families work out arrangements that ensure the children have both mothers and fathers. For example, my ex-bf had a kid with his lesbian best friend; they were both very active parents and the kid was happy as could be. As for me, I plan to find an egg donor/surrogate who will be involved in my kids’ lives.

  11. razib, you said 
    “don’t forget to mate assortatively people. quantity & quality!” 
    This would be a suitable back for the t-shirt. 
    The front would have your previous one liner: 
    “Fuse your gametes with someone intelligent!” 

  12. I married a very smart girl and we’ve had four children. The three older children (youngest is only 3) are all the brightest kids in their grades, with only a couple of serious challengers. I came from a Mormon family, who are frequently engineers, business owners, lawyers, and scientists and they’ve multiplied like thrifty little rats for at least 150 years now. Most of them are still in the church, proving that intelligence doesn’t mean you can’t still get taken in by an obvious fraud, but still… 
    Meanwhile, many of my smartest friends have chosen voluntary extinction, frequently paired with cat ownership. I was at my annual writing retreat last summer, with a couple of absolutely brilliant people in the group and everyone well above average and realized that the eight of us had a total of five children, and four were mine. So I sometimes wonder who will be my children’s peers and mating partners? 
    Mormons, I guess.

  13. This is easy – who has more time to read blogs?