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Differences in fertility by class internationally
In the Latin American countries, SES correlates strongly with race. If race correlates with IQ, then the reproduction differentials may very well be dysgenic in the IQ sense.
I visited Rio recently, and was astounded at the miles and the miles of shantytowns between the airport and the downtown. Each year, they grow larger and larger. Meanwhile, the old European section of the city gradually crumbles. Graffiti covers the walls, windows get boarded up, paint chips away.
In my opinion, the primary problem of Latin America is dysgenics. The lower classes reproduce at too high of a level to guarantee their children the good life. They are still stuck in the malthusian world. The upper classes are gradually dying out. You get the sense, when visiting a city like Rio, that civilization is collapsing before your very eyes.
I visited Rio recently, and was astounded at the miles and the miles of shantytowns between the airport and the downtown. Each year, they grow larger and larger. Meanwhile, the old European section of the city gradually crumbles. Graffiti covers the walls, windows get boarded up, paint chips away.
In my opinion, the primary problem of Latin America is dysgenics. The lower classes reproduce at too high of a level to guarantee their children the good life. They are still stuck in the malthusian world. The upper classes are gradually dying out. You get the sense, when visiting a city like Rio, that civilization is collapsing before your very eyes.
When I was a moron
It might be fun if you could name one country to which the US-imposed termination of "colonialism" brought any improvement in the quality of government.
Mencius-
India seems to be doing better in many way. Life expectancy is up since the Raj, infant mortality is down, they haven't had any major famines ( under British rule, mismanagement resulted in several major famines that killed millions of people). There is a growing tech and industrial base. The slums still suck, though, but I think the slums were pretty bad during British days too.
Mencius-
India seems to be doing better in many way. Life expectancy is up since the Raj, infant mortality is down, they haven't had any major famines ( under British rule, mismanagement resulted in several major famines that killed millions of people). There is a growing tech and industrial base. The slums still suck, though, but I think the slums were pretty bad during British days too.
City upon a Hill
Mencius and Ikram-
As Thomas Nelson Page writes:
"In the cotton section they knew how to raise and prepare cotton; in the sugar belt they knew how to grow and grind sugar; in the tobacco, corn, wheat, and hay belts they knew how to raise and prepare for market those crops. They were the shepherds, cattle-men, horse-trainers and raisers. The entire industrial work of the South was performed by them. They were the trained domestic servants - laundresses, nurses and midwives. They were the carpenters, smiths, coopers, sawyers, wheel-wrights, bricklayers, and boatmen. They were the tanners and shoemakers, miners and stonecutters, tailors and knitters, spinners and weavers. Nearly all the houses in the South were built by them. They manufactured most of the articles that were manufactured in the South."
Looks like it goes a little beyond cotton, no?
As Thomas Nelson Page writes:
"In the cotton section they knew how to raise and prepare cotton; in the sugar belt they knew how to grow and grind sugar; in the tobacco, corn, wheat, and hay belts they knew how to raise and prepare for market those crops. They were the shepherds, cattle-men, horse-trainers and raisers. The entire industrial work of the South was performed by them. They were the trained domestic servants - laundresses, nurses and midwives. They were the carpenters, smiths, coopers, sawyers, wheel-wrights, bricklayers, and boatmen. They were the tanners and shoemakers, miners and stonecutters, tailors and knitters, spinners and weavers. Nearly all the houses in the South were built by them. They manufactured most of the articles that were manufactured in the South."
Looks like it goes a little beyond cotton, no?
Roger -
When I said "Sith library", I meant that these books are things you have been taught from childhood to contain the very embodiment of evil, but then when you actually read them for yourself, you actually wonder to yourself if perhaps they are right and you've been lied to your entire life.
Roger, Ikram, John-
I highly recommended reading the books Mencius recommends, if for no other reason so that you can pull me away from the dark side. Or perhaps you will find yourself taking a more nuanced view towards slavery ... The most stunning books are 'Tis been Sixty Years Since and A South-side View of Slavery. Both were written by strong northern liberals who reconsidered their position on slavery after witnessing events first hand. What would you tell them, with all your modern wisdom, that would convince them to return to their original liberal position?
When I said "Sith library", I meant that these books are things you have been taught from childhood to contain the very embodiment of evil, but then when you actually read them for yourself, you actually wonder to yourself if perhaps they are right and you've been lied to your entire life.
Roger, Ikram, John-
I highly recommended reading the books Mencius recommends, if for no other reason so that you can pull me away from the dark side. Or perhaps you will find yourself taking a more nuanced view towards slavery ... The most stunning books are 'Tis been Sixty Years Since and A South-side View of Slavery. Both were written by strong northern liberals who reconsidered their position on slavery after witnessing events first hand. What would you tell them, with all your modern wisdom, that would convince them to return to their original liberal position?
Mencius-
I read some of your book recommendations after you posted them on your blog ( C.F. Adams, Nehemiah Adams, Thomas Page ). It is mind blowing stuff. The Sith library indeed.
What's your ultimate take on the issue? Are you actually taking the Confederate line? Was slavery as practiced in the South a generally acceptable institution in your mind?
I read some of your book recommendations after you posted them on your blog ( C.F. Adams, Nehemiah Adams, Thomas Page ). It is mind blowing stuff. The Sith library indeed.
What's your ultimate take on the issue? Are you actually taking the Confederate line? Was slavery as practiced in the South a generally acceptable institution in your mind?

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