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4) i know that tasmanians turned away from marine life and forgot how to make hooks or something by the end of their time on the island.
They stoppped eating scalefish about 4000 years ago, it was probably gender political, as they still dive for crayfish, muttonfish (abalone), and other shellfish. Men did not go in the water, were not allowed to, they probably had an islandwide taboo on scale fish and 'forgot' how to make fishhooks after they stopped eating them, but whatever the reason for the loss, such islands do not receive new tech as there is no trade or population movements to replace what is lost ( to repeat, for whatever reasons - death of an elder, religious nuttery, cultural practice).
Gender political? The food was gathered from the sea and fishing always seems to be more like hunting in hunter-gather societies, for some reason men were no longer allowed/wanted to go in the water (it's too bloody cold if you ask me).
Lizards big and small in central Australia are "gathered" and even though they are the other white meat this food source is not categorized as hunted.
I could go on as to why but I won't just yet.
They stoppped eating scalefish about 4000 years ago, it was probably gender political, as they still dive for crayfish, muttonfish (abalone), and other shellfish. Men did not go in the water, were not allowed to, they probably had an islandwide taboo on scale fish and 'forgot' how to make fishhooks after they stopped eating them, but whatever the reason for the loss, such islands do not receive new tech as there is no trade or population movements to replace what is lost ( to repeat, for whatever reasons - death of an elder, religious nuttery, cultural practice).
Gender political? The food was gathered from the sea and fishing always seems to be more like hunting in hunter-gather societies, for some reason men were no longer allowed/wanted to go in the water (it's too bloody cold if you ask me).
Lizards big and small in central Australia are "gathered" and even though they are the other white meat this food source is not categorized as hunted.
I could go on as to why but I won't just yet.
Razib's "i really doubt that tasmania is sunnier than algeria."
Maybe not but it could be sunnier than Spain, (particularly on the east coast, the west is very very wet, but humans tend to avoid it even today)which is not too far from Algeria.
I don't doubt the tropics get more sun. But we have "excellent weather" here generally.
Don't tell anyone though. We have enough tourists as it is.
Maybe not but it could be sunnier than Spain, (particularly on the east coast, the west is very very wet, but humans tend to avoid it even today)which is not too far from Algeria.
I don't doubt the tropics get more sun. But we have "excellent weather" here generally.
Don't tell anyone though. We have enough tourists as it is.
Razib's
"2) the UV warnings, isn't part of this due to the ozone depletion in the antarctic?"
The Ozone Hole is a looonnngggg way south of here. It's just all water, like from Oregon/Spain to the North pole being all water. World maps don't emphasize this much.
"3) the population of northern europeans who settled in australia are very depigmented for the latituded."
Not sure what you mean. The genes for lots of melanin in Tasmanian Aboriginal populations are rgarded as recessive, but I have no knowledge of studies backing that up.
"2) the UV warnings, isn't part of this due to the ozone depletion in the antarctic?"
The Ozone Hole is a looonnngggg way south of here. It's just all water, like from Oregon/Spain to the North pole being all water. World maps don't emphasize this much.
"3) the population of northern europeans who settled in australia are very depigmented for the latituded."
Not sure what you mean. The genes for lots of melanin in Tasmanian Aboriginal populations are rgarded as recessive, but I have no knowledge of studies backing that up.
RE: Tasmania
Tasmania has lots of sunshine, despite chilly winters they didn't wear a lot of clothes, and I don't know about that satellite data, we have a lot of UV in summer, UV warning on weather forecasts are very common, we are at the same lattitude as northern Spain/ Oregon. The east coast is not very cloudy and in a rain shadow.
I doubt mutations dropping melanin would prosper.
Tomorrow's UV Index: 7 [High] UV Alert from 9:50 to 17:00
(that link is an dynamic page so don't expect it to say that tomorrow about the day after...)
Indigenous Tasmanians were darker than mainland Aboriginals at time of 'white' settlement. Thought to represent orginal populations moving out from Africa along the Indian Ocean coasts.
Tasmania has lots of sunshine, despite chilly winters they didn't wear a lot of clothes, and I don't know about that satellite data, we have a lot of UV in summer, UV warning on weather forecasts are very common, we are at the same lattitude as northern Spain/ Oregon. The east coast is not very cloudy and in a rain shadow.
I doubt mutations dropping melanin would prosper.
Tomorrow's UV Index: 7 [High] UV Alert from 9:50 to 17:00
(that link is an dynamic page so don't expect it to say that tomorrow about the day after...)
Indigenous Tasmanians were darker than mainland Aboriginals at time of 'white' settlement. Thought to represent orginal populations moving out from Africa along the Indian Ocean coasts.
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