And to all the people out on the net who are speculating about all gene flow being from Neanderthal males to human females – we don’t see any Neanderthal paternal _or_ maternal markers, so stop already. All the gene flow doesn't need to have been male Neanderthal to HSS female for all the Neanderthal genes in modern people being from male Neanderthals. Dudes don't get pregnant, so kids are more likely to live with mom than with dad. Neanderthal's lost. Genes from hybrids in mostly cro-mag groups would be better represented in modern populations than genes from hybrids living with Neanderthals. What's more likely, Neanderthal women joining the cro-magnon baby-daddy's tribe, or a cro-magnon woman pregnant (by whatever means) with a hybrid giving birth in her tribe? Unlike the sapiens man, she doesn't have to bring a Neanderthal spouse along. Moderns being descended from HSS-male Neanderthal female hybrids in crog-magnon populations seems like it requires more compatibility between the two populations than the opposite.

Unfit for Life: Genetically enhance humanity or face extinction

People mostly live within a few miles of the coast, and what was coastal during the last ice age is now quite underwater. Göbekli Tepe might not have sprung full formed from nothing. I'm quite aware that lunatics think there was an advanced, ancient civilization swallowed by the sea. Adding to space aliens and sci-fi technology to that, and it's totally crazy. But thinking that there are probably some really interesting archeological sites from ice age cultures as advanced as Gobekli Tepe or Catal Huyuk underwater, that doesn't seem so crazy.

How much of the correlation comes from dropouts? My family is Episcopalian. I'm the black sheep, and I would just be ashamed to go church and show off my 0 success. If we were Baptists, and there were lots o' other failures there, I think I'd be more willing to be part of the community.

My father grew up in rural Mississippi in the '50's. He says that the de facto situation for African-Americans wasn't very different from slavery. They lived in under constant supervision and fairly low population density.  
 
From observation it seems clear that personality trait distribution varies between populations. To me, it seems African-Americans tend to have personalities that lead to poor outcomes in conditions with anonymous, impersonal relationships and institutions. African-Americans seem to respond much better charismatic than institutional authority. 
 
Then black people moved/were moved into materially better, but much denser housing, with less paternalistic control. Higher density means more encounters per day. Ceteris parabis, that should mean more crime. In low density and small communities, one can establish one's 'rep' as a bad, as opposed to a signifying motherf*cker. The pecking order becomes established and stable fairly fast. In more anonymous communities, the stable, low violence equilibrium never happens. 
 
As Moldbug's links show, European urban populations were culled for long periods form docility. Even now, rural white populations (at least in the US) are more violent than urban populations. 
 
A huge chunk of American crime comes from putting a crime-prone population in environments where crime is easy. Probably most US crime variation tracks changes in that population.

Randall,  
 
People with chizotypal and schizoid personality disorders might be interesting too. They (we?) are unsocial for different reasons than aspies. I don't know where to find em in large concentrations though.

I also think you have a real problem knowing what inventions are major ones until some time later, which biases that survey towards past inventions.

Just to be sure, I hope no one forgets that the major complaint against monopolies is market control and manipulation while fixing prices to their advantage alone and blocking competition. I know that's not the subject of this post but I wanted to make sure it was said.

Martin look at the question. Would you tell a woman you loved her to increase the chance she would have sex with you. 
 
That's different from 'would you tell a woman you loved her because you love her'. It's pretty reasonable to interpret the question they asked as is it ok to lie to someone so she'll sleep with you. I don't think lying your way into someone's pants is rape, and it would be nearly impossible to make it illegal. But it is certainly immoral.

True, I was more thinking an unwilling Neandertal.

You guys are going to get messed up spam for a while after this thread. 
 
Also, most examples, rumors etc. of bestiality are domesticated animals. Isn't f*cking a Neandertal more analogous to doing a lion or a bear? Neandertals were pretty serious ass-kicking predators, right? 
 
Could there be any modern populations that were Out of Africa and isolated that wouldn't have any Neandertal alleles even if almost everyone else did. Like Negritos or pygmies perphaps? Flat asses could be Neandertal, and steatopygia the old human normal. That might even leave evidence on bones.

Cochran, 
 
What're the odds some recently extinct species, moa birds maybe, or passenger pigeons, are actually still around as infections and could be resurrected? 
 
We have some reconstructed Neanderthal mtDNA, and Neanderthal tumors should still have Neanderthal mitochondria. we can do PCR for the mtDNA to screen lots of tissue samples. 
 
If living cells can be distinguished by mtDNA or mitochondrial features, maybe whole, live Neanderthal cells can be isolated.

These Neanderthal infections, they'd probably still have Neanderthal mitochondria, right?

baldness being more frequent among intellectual workers is picking up on their greater introversion 
 
Aren't ugly people in general more introverted, functionally if not by preference?

How soon can we expect gene therapy? And how can I enroll in the clinical trials? 
 
On a less serious note, do either of the loci look recently selected? There is no obvious selective advantage for getting ugly faster. Well, I suppose if it hits after children with the first long-term relationship, it might encourage men to raise children they already have rather than womanizing. But per Rushton, Asians should as bald/balder than whites. What else do these two genes do?

At least hypothetically, a causal infection does not have to chronic. If I get arm cut off with a chainsaw, and look at the stump a year later, you won't find the saw. And giving me antichainsawotics won't do me any good. An infectious cause of heart disease may not be a chronic infection. 
 
I found an article hypothesizing that the link between male pattern baldness and heart disease is occult fungal infection. But it's a few years old, and has never been cited. But maybe the link is predicted well by standard theories of both conditions. 
 
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0306987704002312 
 
I'm sorry if I posted nearly the same comment before, but I think the internets ate my first one.

At least hypothetically, a causal infection does not have to chronic. If I get arm cut off with a chainsaw, and look at the stump a year later, you won't find the saw. And giving me antichainsawotics won't do me any good. An infectious cause of heart disease may not be a chronic infection. 
 
I found an article hypothesizing that the link between male pattern baldness and heart disease is occult fungal infection. But it's a few years old, and has never been cited. But maybe the link is predicted well by standard theories of both conditions. 
 
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0306987704002312 
 
I'm sorry if I posted nearly the same comment before, but I think the internets ate my first one.

Hypothetically, an infectious cause of any disorder may only be the trigger. If someone cuts my arm off with an chainsaw, and a year later you investigate the wound really closely, you won't find the saw. Nor will giving me antichainsaw-otics make arm grow back. 
 
Not finding the pututitve bug in people with heart disease may mean that it is not a stealth infection, but a delayed result of acute damage. So for say chlamydia, we'd have to find people who were never infected as a control. 
 
I found a paper claiming that male pattern baldness and atherosclerosis could both be caused by occult fungal infection. 
 
From the abstract 
 
"A variety of infectious agents have been investigated as the underlying risk factor for atherogenesis, however, none have been proved to be causally linked. Also several interventions against these agents have not been proved to be of benefit in trials. The role of fungal infection, however, has not been explored in sufficient detail. Baldness particularly male pattern baldness and coronary artery disease have been linked in several epidemiological studies. There is some evidence that this type of baldness could be due to fungal infection and this link is being established even though traditionally male pattern baldness was associated with androgen effect. Seborrheic dermatitis and Pityrosporum infection have been causally linked and the benefit derived from antifungal shampoo in male pattern baldness, gives further credence to the link with fungal infection. Here it is being hypothesized that fungal infection is the underlying risk factor for both baldness and CHD. Several interventions, which have proved beneficial in CHD like statins and drug coated stents, also have anti-fungal effects, lending further credence to the present hypothesis." 
 
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0306987704002312

That's why dogs should never listen to the Dead Kennedys

Razib, you meet a transhumanist in the real world? I thought they only existed on the internet. Was he a practicing tranny or a theoretical one? Can we call them trannies, and reclaim the word?

The iedea that density accounts for the problems of zeppelins, and of lead zeppelins in particular isn't new, of course. Helium suppremacists have been using mass and volume tests to support their theories since the turn of the century. The arguments against such dubious science aren't new either. Scientists have repeatedly told us that protons don't vary much from one element to another, and physicists have pointed out that isotope ratios can play a role in density.